Tremere or Toreador. Tremere is just a fun build because of the magical abilities you can get. P. Gangrel, like the Brujah, are among the best vampire fighters. Many websites had their own unique video of the old demo. Bashing damage is bullets and blunt melee weapons, lethal damage is swords and slashing weapons, and aggravated. Malkavian and Nos get stealth. Bloodlines 2 First Clan Revealguns are fine as long as you spend the money. After UP it's a good mod which extends the basic game without much alterations. They still possess the powers of Vicissitude and it's just as potent as it was before, but it's no longer the defining feature of the clan. but i open character sheet once i finished creator and i see. It's just that I wanted to know alternative ways that other (more experienced) players built their characters. Celerity is just busted. This clan seems. Converse with him (1 XP) and learn about the. ) bring me exceptionally powerful starting characters for the sake of debate and discussion. Obfuscate Level 5 is stupidly powerful. Ser Wyrda 2013. Use the first tone for the pc interacting with Clan Tremere, and the second for interacting with those who oppose Vienna. A non aggression treaty with the sewer rats is necessary for secrecy. The skill points that bother you aren't needed for finishing the game, they're there in case you discover them, to keep the game fresh every time. Macro Tofu Jun 24, 2015 @ 11:12am. With that being said, when you get your. Fledgling A newly created vampire, still under the protection of their sire. If he notices, he doesn't comment on it, though he will treat you far better than LaCroix. And as a Tremere this is particularly ruinous to the play style of the Tremere whose main abilities are dependent upon heavy blood usage. This is the ending you get if you choose to side with Strauss and the Camarilla. The second one looks like it could be. We say "were" because the Salubri were almost completely wiped out by clan Tremere, who were called "Usurpers" as a result of their actions. 9. The good news is, you can finish the game just fine by having one good way of causing damage and some good disciplines. Try a low humanity Gangrel or Malkavian. First-person roleplaying game, based on White Wolf's popular Vampire: The Masquerade pen-and-paper RPG. You start with this clothing. Sort by. Search for a txt file named "clandoc000". However, from a thematic point of view, it does make a lot of sense. Never aimed a low humanity gameplay, but I had a Tremere that I roleplayed inside the game as a complete elitist jerk and I ended up with Humanity 3. The blood was combined to form three specific types of Gargoyle:. Order. “The playstyle is. Seduction is slightly more "fun", and will lead to more money and a LOT more blood. This video on youtube suggests two points in intimidation to pass all of the early game intimidation checks, which sounds pretty great, but he also says putting one point in brawl will unlock some. 3. Zombies and monsters in the sewers made certain parts of the game muuuuch easier. V5 rules for Diablerie. If you'll have Firearms at more than 1, you'll miss it. Gangrel Protagonist. Aside from that, a few lines of dialogue change but the gameplay is more or less the same. The haven you get is so much better if for no other reason than that it's much quicker to access. Strength that takes YEARS to build, is being built in just a few nights. I'll take a quick look at how Tremere magic looks and decide based on that. Brujah have bros like skelter and Jack and absolute dreamboats like Nines "I wanna marry" Rodriguez. Celerity is just busted. Guns don't seem fun to start off with, the . ”. While the other ones definitely have differences here or there, that clan is the most distinct, imo. 44 magnum revolver as soon as you hit holywood, then just go with that and the two shotguns (especially the automatic shotgun end game), later get the flamethrower. Originally Clan Quest offered seven new quests, each one specific to each of the seven clans. The buff to thaumaturgy is not great enough to warrant the cost. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines mod | Released 2017. There is also a nosferatu specific haven you get after doing some stuff in Chinatown. Great, thanks! Tremere thaumaturgy is fantastic, but don't neglect. Good build for a new player (Tremere) Hey, I am a new player and got Tremere Clan after going through the character creation. There are two downtown ones. The Factions of Vampire: The. I am currently replaying the game again, I've lost count of how many times I've played and just acquired the Tremere Haven. Extract those two folders to either the Vampire folder OR The Unofficial Patch folder (if you have the Unofficial Patch that is) in your main. The game plunges players into the dark and gritty vampire underworld of modern day L. (Maybe, slightly subtler, of course. The Caitiff: Unwanted, adrift, Caitiff have no clan or home. Add the mower pulling a cart with my Tremere pounding down blood packets with a 50 percent alchohol rate and this would be complete. Tories with guns, Brujah with potence and it are the most op. When. The Tremere are experts at Blood Sorcery. Ming Xiao ending: you help her by killing La Croix. you already mentioned malk/nos are accepted to be not the best first clan choice (both because the dialogue is different and invisibility really changes the way you play). Gangrel are loners and prefer solitude; they're also the closest to nature and the beast than all the. Inside you'll find that the corridors are bound with magic. -oki_ • 1 yr. Malkavian is definitely the funniest to play as, but I'd definitely call Tremere the most fun to actually play. Granting you the embrace. Toreador is the best starting class for first time players due to their 'no extremes' style of play. ) bring me exceptionally powerful starting characters for the sake of debate and discussion. My question is : How do you ever know that you have to go to see strauss when you don't use the internet and aren't a tremere. Take note of which symbol this is. The fledgling's first quest-related visit to the building is when solving the. Tremere is awesome but suck at boss fights. Other stats I invested in were intimidation and sneaking. Best. Is my second favorite clan after Tremere. Add a Comment. Here the Player can add points to the desired Attributes and traits when they gain enough experience. I played as a Male Tremere, and if you look closely, I chose the rudest optio. There is only one male/male seduction opportunity in the game to my knowledge, whereas every woman in the world is apparently bisexual and can be seduced equally well by a woman or a man. You could probably get away with just using bloodbuff, if you think it's worth getting a couple extra points somewhere else. Disciplines could be used to shorten your stay, but with the limited blood, even that's not a good option. 1. If you have low humanity, you will get different dialog. Even malks are more likeable and I never even met grout. Blood Strike - A missile attack that returned some blood. If you are in hollywood by now I recommend you get that firearms skill up to 4 and at least 3 in perception to make the ranged combat more functional. Really easy combat honestly. My characters is a toreador and kinda be building him a ranged build. and is pretty friggen awesome if you have the unofficial patch installed. Blood Boil - Make people explode. Especially for the Tremere - most first time players speak to the anarchs and complete their quests long before stumbling into the tucked away chantry, and thus disqualifying themselves from being taken in as apprentices. . Tremere and Gangrel are cooler. The splintering of the clan into three houses, one for all factions, is really cool. If you're in the vanilla Game, it depends on whether you prioritise blood or XP. Tremere (the dude) diablerised the Salubri Antediluvian, which is frowned upon within kindred society. This video on youtube suggests two points in intimidation to pass all of the early game intimidation checks, which sounds pretty great, but he also says putting one point in brawl will unlock some. Whereas the Tremere specialize in blood magic, the Tzimisce specialize in flesh-shaping. If you get locked out from the Tremere Chantry, you probably won't get Strauss ending. Different clans have different proficiency with firearms, If you want to play gunslinger you should look for a clan with auspex, celerity or both. Below follows a comprehensive list of all published Thaumaturgical rituals. They have almost all the goods needed to do a perfect playthrough:In the end if you choose the independent ending, you end up in the same situation as with Bertram. I've replayed VTMB countless times and have gotten used to the combat to the point where it's actually fun in a masochistic way. Tremere get a different haven, Ventrue have to be picky about who they feed from. View Mobile SiteIncludes all the official outfits available in-game. Although one of the newest vampire clans, the Treme are essentially Ventrue Lite — super-organized, super-into the Masquerade, super-pro-vampire society. Well, for Bloodlines I guess I like both. then it gives a good shield, 2 blood refund spells, one of them is a single target one-shot and bloodboil, which is a mass aoe, but you won't really need it till mid-late game I begin to put points in combat once in hollywood, not before. This mod is an unofficial patch for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines by Troika Games. 32K subscribers in the vtmb community. I played my first characters as melee combatants, then I decided to play a gunslinger tremere. #1 Vepar Sep 6, 2019 @ 4:36pm Tremere can get away with pretty much anything as long as you max out Thaumaturgy. ZzSavageCanadianzZ • 2 yr. Quick to anger and always passionate, they have been steadily regaining their. . In addition to that, Malks aren't best suited for direct combat but you can build that way at a slight efficiency cost. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 has been quietly rebuilt by Dear Esther developer The Chinese Room with 'different gameplay mechanics and RPG systems' - PC Gamer. I can't. Tremere : it's all about the build, and you do not need offensive combat skills - thaumaturgy up to 5 is all you need. Celerity + guns is the best combat build you can have in Bloodlines and Toreador also has Auspex which boosts guns. Also, Prelude mod is quite different as it's a prequel to the actual game. I just finished my second playthrough after well over 7 years and I must admit it's very disappointing. 1. Those are overhaul mods, which of course you should play, but it's not all there is to VtM:B mods. Ventrues don't really get direct offensive boosts like Celerity, Potence, or Auspex, but they can certainly tank. 3, it. Except this time I decided to play with the unofficial patch (restored content) and boy did I not like it. 12 Tzimisce. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines. You can play with 10+ persuasion being a crazed maniac at the same time. Both significantly change the experience of the game. Malkavian is definitely the funniest to play as, but I'd definitely call Tremere the most fun to actually play. Tremere have it slightly different IMO. Although I used Eerie presence, when I played as tremere. My first play through as a Gangrel left a lot to be desired since I didn’t know how to properly build a Gangrel which resulted in a lot of wasted points, so I did a second play through as Gangrel and it went much better and was a lot more fun. ZzSavageCanadianzZ • 2 yr. Auspex i went heavy into for perception due to firearms and ranged build and there is a notable difference, but unfortunately without going all in it doesnt do a whole lot if u only go 2 to 3 points into it especially if u dont go firearms/ranged. Such a control is exerted in the reinforcement of the Masquerade, a method to force other vampires to bend the knee under the guise of having to “blend in with humans. It's a cumulative patch containing all the previous releases and works with retail and downloadable versions of. The Tremere Scholar is a powerful Blood Mage with the ability to harm foes and heal allies via their Blood Lance Power while boasting tremendous movement. this should make sure the tremere weakness is ignored when using bloodbuff. They are known for cursing a whole clan, really badly. This message is caused by missing ain files in the maps/graphs folder. I have level 4 celerity. No matter which way you look at it. ) You say you'll go independent to the cab driver. Through the practice of blood magic, a Cainite can summon fire, control the weather, and do many other things. Thaumaturgy is a signature Discipline of the clan Tremere in Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines. Like already said, I'd focus on brawl and protean, with persuasion or intimidation as your dialogue skill and relevant secondaries like fortitude, stamina, and dodge. Skill books are items in Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines. The dragons view ownership above all, they aim to conquer and rule the subject of their possessiveness. I. Tremere haven. After the first three missions, I’ll let you judge. I'm trying to find a mod that changes the skin on the tremere character, but it seems like the mods that I have found is outdated. Playing as a Tremere in Bloodlines 2 As a Tremere in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2, you use your arcane powers to control your own Blood and that of your foes. I only focused on it and had. Eriane (Topic Creator) 15 years ago #6. None of the other clans can compete. Narnak • 2 yr. With Thaumaturgy you had. The Unofficial Patch is a combination of the default Basic Patch which mostly fixes bugs only, and the optional Plus Patch, which is kind of a mod adding various tweaks and restoring a lot of unused content, including new quests. IMO Nosferatu, Malkavian, and Tremere are all very unique, whereas Ventrue, Toreador and Brujah are a bit more generic, except for a few dialogue lines here and there. Despite this, the Ventrue are the. -oki_ • 1 yr. Heavy firearm and bloodmagic play through with tremere might be my favorite playthroughMod Review: Clan Quest Mod [VTMB Main Story Spoilers] Tl; dr: It more than deserves its good reputation. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 will have a voiced main character: 'it draws the player in that much more', says. In HSL's build the women looked like women (several women in Lou's case) and the men looked like men. Persuasion is more useful in quests. Wait a moment and try again. In Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, many characters seem to be under the impression that Andrei the Tzimisce has trapped the Hollywood Nosferatu in their warren, and Andrei himself believes that his fleshcrafted warriors are about to "gouge out the eyes of the Camarilla. I played most clans, i had only left toreador, ventrue and tremere i never played, picked tremere. As such, I want the most amount. In the retail vanilla release background histories were removed from the game, they weren't finished. 78 votes, 12 comments. Mostly solved stuff with Persuasion and Seduction (With all Seduction dialog enabled for Male PCs mod). It might be a curious decision to call this latest trailer an announcement trailer, given that Bloodlines 2 was. It is immensely powerful, and made the Tremere feared and hated by their. The Character Creation Wizard is a questionnaire offered upon starting a new game to determine your character's clan, attributes, and abilities. ago I'm glad that you have a good experience with the Tremere clan thus far; it's my favorite clan in the game. The last shot kills them so I don't want to use Blood Strike. Celerity. But as a vamp she was content knowing that deep inside. no crippling weaknesses but no god-like strengths either. then it gives a good shield, 2 blood refund spells, one of them is a single target one-shot and bloodboil, which is a mass aoe, but. so i'm thinking of starting over as a tremere. It may make your game extremely blurry, however it is still possible to use some features, but SweetFX is an easier option. Tremere is hella fun, exploding people and rain their blood. The only thing that happens is that the character turn purple and black. The Tremere are somewhat similar in their approach to the procurement of knowledge. Tremere is stupidly overpowered. I'm trying to find a mod that changes the skin on the tremere character, but it seems like the mods that I have found is outdated. Oh wait. I was watching a tremere build and he put two points into intimidation. The Tremere clan. Hopefully this gives you an idea of my stats, but feel free to adjust for your own character. Well, at least that helped me back in day before clan quest 4. You need at least level 3 to feel the effects, you probably won't need level 5. They are considered to be back-stabbers by other vampire clans. Welcome to /r/VTMB, a subreddit for fans of the original Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines game by Troika/Activision Members Online. márc. as a creature of the night, interacting with and battling mortals and other creatures of darkness. Will go with either Tremere or Malkavian for my first playthrough. Display. Every success gives the diablerist 5 experience points to immediately spend on increasing BP. And with a sufficient level of persuasion he can learn a few things about said gargoyle. Maxing out Thaumaturgy is something I always do as Tremere because blood boil is OP. Just make sure you've dedicated yourself to at least one form of combat (I'd recommend melee, as your level 1 Dominate skill allows you to feed during combat anyway), social stat (persuasion is the best one long-term), and lockpicking. Playing as a Tremere in Bloodlines 2 As a Tremere in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2, you use your arcane powers to control your own Blood and that of your foes. For a guns based style, Toreador seems like they would be cool because all of their disciplines lend themselves to firearm combat. Talk to Strauss (Tremere Chanty in Hollywood) about the plague before you talk to Damsel. ago. Blood Strike does not mess around, and though I did do a bit of Firearms, the fight took me a little bit. from table: 5 So for. such Tremere, let's say I'll start with 3 Charism, at 3 exp (schoolaship 2) I could receive 1 free exp point (knox + tourette), plus. ago. A modder named Werner Spahl, aka Wesp5, took on the work left unfinished by the developer, and his Unofficial Patch is an essential fix. It's good and functional, but not as unique as I would've initially envisioned. . The ability to 1 shot all trash and all the trash near them with the final ability made things super easy as well. Just make sure you've dedicated yourself to at least one form of combat (I'd recommend melee, as your level 1 Dominate skill allows you to feed during combat anyway), social stat (persuasion is the best one long-term), and lockpicking. Traditionally their charges were based on geographical locations, hence the stereotype of a vampire in a looming castle. as a creature of the night, interacting with and battling mortals and other creatures of darkness. Build philopsophy: Get social aspects up early so you do not miss anything (5 persuasion is fine with 3 scholorship)and dominate 3 can be used in conversations aswell. Blood Shield - Absorbs some damage. NejOfTheWild • 8 mo. The reason is that as Ventrue I decided to act against the stereotype, and as Tremere I decided to embrace it. Developers, on. just because its unique doesn't. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Log in sign up User account menu 8 Good build for a new player (Tremere). You can totally support our channel by buying it and writing a review:Su. Mod DB. Add a Comment. Welcome to /r/VTMB, a subreddit for fans of the original Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines. 32. . Unique DLs-- Total DLs-- Total views-- Version. Meet the power-players, ally yourself and decide who will rule and what the city will become. The Ventrue are one of seven playable clans in Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines. My advice: Brujah for melee. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. If you'll have Firearms at more than 1, you'll miss it. Tremere is probably the strongest clan choice in the game in the right hands. The game plunges players into the dark and gritty vampire. RedWithEnvy1 • 5 mo. For the book of the same name, see Blood Magic: Secrets of Thaumaturgy For the discipline in V5, see Blood Sorcery (VTM) Blood Magic, refers to the magic performed by vampires, fueled by religious or occult practices and the power of Cainite vitae. The clan focuses on long-distance combat, using arcane power to control blood, whether it's the enemies' or the character's. I used my Thaumaturgy to help me with bosses and humans in general and it worked. Allows a lot of versatile builds and all of their disciplines are quite useful! Also making people explode into a bloody mist never gets old. Join one of eleven tribes, each. However, outside of Nosferatu and Malkavian, I'd say pick whatever you want to play as. I naively thought, after the beach house. Low stats makes it even worse. They hate the Camarilla but they hate the Tremere much more, because of the fact that the Usurpers used Tzimisce blood when they became vampires in the first place. Best. The Shin Gunto also has a Horizontal 3rd slash which is might easier to use than the Fire Axe and. "Power" is up for each poster to define as it is a subjective. I played it with Malkavian and the Malk dialogue was. Both significantly change the experience of the game. Presence isn’t direct control, but influence leaves victims with their ability to think; making those affected more useful for. Still image from the leaked gameplay of the 2019 build, showing character sheet. Add a Comment. It's a cumulative patch containing all the previous releases and works with retail and downloadable versions of any kind as the. Posted: May 8, 2019 12:15 pm. The Tremere meet here when it is required. The Tremere have become the third strongest force in the modern vampire world, behind the Camarilla and the Sabbat. 7 comments. Language: English Words: 61,610 Chapters: 10. Vampire: The Masquerade – Redemption is a role-playing video game released for personal computers on June 7, 2000, by Activision. Strauss, you'll have to turn right at every intersection. On an efficient Plus build: the Eerie Presence Tremere. Setting are stored hidden in the character sheet and restored when opening the file. Merchants will produce and sell back duplicates of the books sold. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. You can buy these in Chinatown from Tseng in his Herbal Remedies shop. 3) Tremere . #1. Thaumaturgy is so feared that some vampires created a . A modder named Werner Spahl, aka Wesp5, took on the work left unfinished by the developer, and his Unofficial Patch is an essential fix. A guide designed to minimise the amount of XP wasted on skills you get for free via books and trainers. Every other clan is better. Tremere Variant. Usually these are just cosmetic, but you can convince Vandal to keep selling you blood. (For example ,Vampire The Masquerade - BloodlinesCQMvdatasystem for Clan Quest Mod users) Lets say you want to use these skins for the female malkavian. This means that they can only use sewers, and should they be seen by humans, they will violate the Masquerade. Camarilla Lite is meh as it loses out on most fun part of CE, The Online College. Clan Quest Mod is an add-on for Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines that not only adds many new quests along with a myriad of other new features, but also integrates several other mods for the game, including the Arsenal Mod, the Camarilla Edition Mod, Companion Mod, and. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines is a 2004 action role-playing video game developed by Troika Games and published by Activision for Microsoft Windows. Ventrue are great close quarters combatants; their Presence and Fortitude make them absolute tanks. Presence 2 gives a chance to mesmerize, which can be useful against close-range mobs. Tremere Heaven and Skyline apartment : r/vtmb. Their power makes them valuable, but few vampires trust their scheming ways. I'm planning on making a new character who will use either melee or unarmed, but I've only played through the game with guns before so I'm not sure which one is better. Only thing you've got to watch out for is your humanity, especially since Brujah has an easier chance to frenzy. Purge - Nearby enemies vomit blood. Anyone else build for social stats and then get wrecked by the last third of the game. Protean - complete fucking garbage. Which isn’t a big deal but can be anmoying. When you bring the sarcophagus into LaCroix's penthouse, you'll get to have a talk with Beckett. I have already done several quests in Santa Monica and simply distributed skill levels evenly (to get at least one point in each skill) but also given more focus to Thaumaturgy and melee (I find melee does significantly. In VTMB1 all disciplines had five levels. About this mod. Toreador has absolutely disciples, great at social things, and. Basic Description - Tremere are vampire wizards. You're actually only doing 7 damage per hit with your mac-10, but the sheer rate of fire is what does the damage. . " In reality, only one Nosferatu has been killed; the others are. ago. The Character Sheet shows the Player's current Character statistics (or 'Stats' as they are more commonly known by). My Toreador, on the other hand, ended the game with High humanity and was usually preoccupied with having it too low. Here's another version of the Tremere haven walkthrough: :D. The streets of the city offer new pawns, feeding, open battle with rival Kindred, or a variety of dangers. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines. For example, one demo got the data disc for Elif and finished the quest. The chantry is the first. The regent is close to the graffiti indeed. For gangrel, nosferatu and ventrue guns really may not the best combat style. Blood Boil - Make people explode. Tzimisce were introduced in the Vampire the Masquerade 5th Edition Companion Guide. Cheats. 5 clans and 10 different disciplines. Welcome to /r/VTMB, a subreddit for fans of the original Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines game by Troika/Activision Members Online Dying Light 2 crossover even with VTMB2 might have some hints at playable clans for Bloodlines 2. Tremere are the OP clan in the game, they are basically your you want to kill everything and live without much struggle clan. After it, i got forced to use noclip to solve some bugs and din't managed to complete some side quests, but in overall. A non aggression treaty with the sewer rats is necessary for secrecy. VTMB firearms guide (basic patch version) by u/StalkeroOfTheYear. Update: There are some modified versions of ENB on Nexus Mods but I've never. I beat it with Tremere, but even with Auspex 5, Dodge 5, Stamina 4 (as Tremere cant have it at 5), and Wits 5, and 3rd Armor, plus Blood Shield, which combined is insane defense in any other mod, I still had to keep playing cat and mouse with even trash mobs in some levels as you die in 2-3 seconds fully buffed any place with bunch of enemies. 9. Quod est inferius est sicut quod est superius. Have to do a certain amount of jobs and not say the. Early game would be a bit tough, as the starting gun is a. 13 comments. Only some of them attack the gate, the rest attack you. I believe CCM 4. Board Messages. 2 comments. In this post, I'd like to provide a special analysis of a particular build for Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines; please note that this build was constructed specifically with the Plus version of the Unofficial VtMB Patch in mind. Celerity + guns is the best combat build you can have in Bloodlines and Toreador also has Auspex which boosts guns. What is your "So stupid but it works" build? Looking to try off the wall builds. The game plunges players into the dark and gritty vampire underworld of modern. The ruling class, the nobility, aristocracy, company CEOs, wealthy individuals, politicians – it's these people that make up the Ventrue clan. Boards. The benefit is that you don't need to buy ammo, and they're not shit for about 55% of the game. No bums. Reading a book is possible only when the fledgling's stats meets a minimum and a maximum requirement, and when their research skill meets a minimum requirement. This is an unofficial SDK for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines by Psycho-A (and Fire64 and Behar and Wesp5). It is immensely powerful, and made the Tremere feared and hated by their fellow Kindred. There should be two folders (and maybe some extras depending on the mod), which are 'models' and 'materials'. ago. The world is your canvas and the ground itself is your paint. This clan seems. P Jul 11, 2017 @ 11:40am. UniversalWolf: Just answer the questions in the character quiz and go with whatever you get. The Tremere are blood mages and a relatively new player in vampire society. I did a weird tremere build my last playthrough (melee and thaumaturgy, didn’t realize until too late that melee just doesn’t work well for tremere) and got through this fight pretty much exclusively using thaumaturgy. I'm only allowed to play 1-3 dots in gen. They also are one of the few clans. . They can never raise any physical stat above 4, so I usually don't bother much with those and just concentrate on guns. Best. With the Plus version of the UP, the Tremere only get some Dominate lines (i. Dominate is easily the best ability Tremere have but your dodge and stamina are way too low, as a tremere you are very squishy and need to beef up your defence more than other characters. Danbot001 •. Yes, just be nice to everyone. Start with Firearms 0, buy a point for 3 xp early on, use a book in Santa Monica. 1 uses the Unofficial Patch 9. Add a Comment. #1. 1) Firearms and clans.